"Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."  -Hillary Clinton

-b0b
(...frickin' frackin' socialists.)

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Actually many all of our income taxes we pay every year only goes to the payment of the interest that comes from our national debt.  The rest of the money that our government runs on comes from sources that are actually legal! (taxing on imports/exports, money going out of country, etc.)  To see a brilliant documentary on the evils of our tax system dl America:  Freedom To Fascism.  I couldn't recommend a better movie.

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Well you DO know that the dems along with the reps gave Bush a blank check for the war right after 9/11 right?  They gave him a system where absolutely no checks or balances could be made on power and on spending.  This is what we call in the biblical times as reaping what thou hast sowest!  Also if you think the dems are going to raise taxes to get us out of debt...you are sadly mistaken.  Those monies are going to go into new pork spending, increase in salaries, and a plethora of new programs that are designed to make America and even lazier country.  Also, I would like you, and anyone who think raising taxes is a good thing, to be the ones to take my place.  I rendered services for goods (eg. money) and I would love to see the law that allows anyone to rightfully and lawfully take my property away from me.

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I'd hardly call a statement of opinion "bullshit" or "false information".  Patrick is using trends to predict what he thinks will happen.  And lets face it, in this case he is probably right.  Politicians blow money, they have for 200+ years and they will for the next 200.

You are tired of dealing with it?

Cry me a fucking river.  You want to know who's really tired of listening to bullshit and false information? ME.  "what is with men and lying, anyways? its all a bunch of crap"

THAT sounds like some bullshit to me.  If you want to make sweeping stereotypes please visit the local christian or republican forum because no one here wants to listen to it.

If you want to call me cold hearted and mean then fine, do so.  But I don't care if you had a bad evening and I really don't want to read ignorant and poorly thought out posts displaying your mood swings and bad temper?

Wes
(....is just saying)

sorry

Ya, somethings were said that weren't suppose to and some posts got deleted...nothing to worry about though.

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I can't remember where I read the article but a poll taken said that 60% of people would vote for a third partyer.  You know what this mean though?  We're so stupid as to think we can do nothing to change the existing order that about 30% of that 60% vote just to be right...and not to make a difference.  Because of some screw up with the ballots 100+ years ago we've been scared to support a third party.  Not to mention we're scared of voting our conscious and instead support someone with a butt load of money.  That would require doing independent research and not just listening to the box that tells us what to think.

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